I think that our magic is our kedusha. Just a random thought. I think that it's cool that we have so much koach in teffila and dibor, enough to change lives and move worlds.
Sunday, July 1, 2007
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5 comments:
I agree and disagree with you. Yes, our tefilah is very powerful and it seems as thought we have a power, such as magic, to influence the world. BUT, I believe in magic, REAL magic. No, I don't mean to sound corny. Just because it's koach has been diminished does not mean it no longer exists. If there used to be true magic in the times of Moshe Rabbeinu down through the second Beit Hamikdash (and which mostly dissapeared when avodah zarah was driven out of the world), than a vestige of that remains. I believe it's working counterpart was/is Kabbalah or some hitherto unknown aspect of Judaism that only really big gedolim know about. Yes, tefillah is powerful, but it's not what I'd think of as magic. Think: "The Golem of Prague..." Now we're thinking magic. ;D What do you think?
P.S. Did the second photo come from some sort of an x-men website? It has that look and feel to it. Tell me if I'm wrong, OK?
i have no clue where i got the photo from, sorry, i'll try to cite them next time. I agree with your later comment. I believe that there is a form of magic in the world, but that there are different definitions of this magic. a.) the 'magic' of gedolim was with dibor. through words they were able to change matter and therefore create. in that sence it's magic.
b.) in mitzriam, they had magic, but again, it was through dibor.
I believe, unless i'm miss informed and if so please tell me, that magic that power of words, know things 'proper name' and using letters of the hebrew language, combining them into 'wrods' that can alter things. e.i : the golam.
what do you think?
P.S we still have an inkling of that koach - but we're not on a high enough level to truely understand how to combine the letters to preform that 'magic.' additionally, it was asur to most people BECAUSE it's not a simple matter and can't be used properly with everyone...
Hmmm, what you are saying is very interesting. There is an aspect of power (magic if you will) in words, but there is also real magic. When I say there is a power to the words, I'm referring to the idea that Hashem will not let the words of a tzaddik fall to the ground. Do you know to waht I'm referring? Also, I know that an aspect of kabbalah is related to words, but that is not all there is to it. For example, when Shaul Hamelech went to a witch to call Shmuel's soul back from the dead to talk before going into battle (Shmuel Aleph at the end maybe?), that is magic. When Moshe Rabbeinu performed the nissim that Hashem requested he perform in response to the Egyptian magicians, that had nothing to do with words. Do you see my point? I think we're dealing with different yet all powerful 'forces'.
Regarding you last statement, I believe I once heard that the main problem with using these kochot is that they have different sources. One source is kedusha, the other is tumah. If one is to access the wrong source, they are accessing tumah. It's not so much that these forces cannot be tapped. Rather, the majority of people are tapping the wrong source. Or at least, when we hear stories about certain kabbalists that are 'off' - it sounds to me as though their source of 'power' is not kedusha. We need to be very careful when it comes to these things. Unless you have a Rabbi that tells you a certain kabbalist etc is OK to go to, DON'T go.
OK, if that isn't long enough and detailed, well, too bad. Let me know what you think.
AND, P.S. The picture disappeared. Shame... I forgot what it was. :D
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